Dec 13 14:23:20 1. Roll Call Dec 13 14:23:24 here Dec 13 14:23:33 here Dec 13 14:23:44 2. Meeting Logging - robbat2|na Dec 13 14:23:50 it's logging as usual Dec 13 14:23:58 good Dec 13 14:24:06 3. OB Dec 13 14:24:22 I can report on some of htis Dec 13 14:24:47 Main thing is NM registration is done Dec 13 14:24:49 http://www.nmprc.state.nm.us/cgi-bin/prcdtl.cgi?2463313+GENTOO+FOUNDATION+INC// Dec 13 14:24:58 Good Standing: In GOOD STANDING through 11/15/2010 Dec 13 14:25:07 nice :) Dec 13 14:25:31 PRINCIPAL ADDRESS (Outside New Mexico) Dec 13 14:25:31 MANASSA PARK VIRGINIA Dec 13 14:25:37 so not done :-9 Dec 13 14:26:11 ah geez Dec 13 14:26:14 also, david and myself aren't on there Dec 13 14:26:38 I wonder if the form was submitted correctly or what Dec 13 14:26:45 could be clerical error Dec 13 14:27:07 regardless, perhaps we should file a bug to keep this in our minds until its fixed Dec 13 14:27:18 one sec, i'll file Dec 13 14:27:27 as it needs to be corrected, certainly Dec 13 14:30:02 bug 296766 done Dec 13 14:30:06 robbat2|na: https://bugs.gentoo.org/296766 "Corrections to corporation filing needed as of 2009/12/13"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; NEW; robbat2@g.o:trustees@g.o Dec 13 14:30:13 thanks Dec 13 14:30:15 this reminds me, I have been looking into remote mail management & digitization services. This might be really helpful for us. Dec 13 14:30:50 basically, a service that scans the mail (-junk) & emails it along Dec 13 14:32:36 Also, it appears that the foundation finances are in good shape. FY 2010 Q1 Dec 13 14:32:48 http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/finances/2010q1.xml Dec 13 14:33:45 Beyond that, I have no more info regarding tsunam's portion Dec 13 14:33:59 To continue, Dec 13 14:34:48 are the expenditures enumerated anywhere? Dec 13 14:35:25 antarus|wtf: at present, I do not think so. Dec 13 14:35:44 * NeddySeagoon shows up ... and apologies for his late arrival Dec 13 14:36:10 * quantumsummers welcomes NeddySeagoon :) Dec 13 14:36:54 Regarding SFLC: work is progressing, and we will soon need to complete a general budget estimate, as well as the Foundation board member bio statements Dec 13 14:37:27 whats in the bio statements ? Dec 13 14:37:53 NeddySeagoon: It is much like we have on file for you already. Dec 13 14:38:00 ok Dec 13 14:38:14 We will need them for myself, dabbott, robbat2|na, and tsunam Dec 13 14:38:28 just a short paragraph is fine Dec 13 14:38:48 for the budget, robbat2|na can you provide an estimate on infra? Dec 13 14:39:17 we previously approved $2k iirc as the default amount Dec 13 14:39:37 **note: this is not a set-in-stone budget, it can reflect current expenditures as well as grow estimates Dec 13 14:39:54 robbat2|na: yes, so that is a good place to start Dec 13 14:40:21 we should also look at what we would like to do & create budget items for these things ... like embedded, etc, etc Dec 13 14:41:52 So, other than that, we are using info from the g.o site to construct the narrative for our application. Dec 13 14:42:39 infra expenditure for last year was sub $300, of which <$100 came from our funds Dec 13 14:43:22 quantumsummers, having not seen this sort of thing before are you able to scan it and circulate it so far ? I understand its not finished Dec 13 14:44:52 NeddySeagoon: its basically a fillable pdf file, and accompanying instructions. SFLC is handling the actual form, we need only pass them the info. Dec 13 14:45:45 I can ask for a copy of what we have, though I am not sure if they have started filling things out Dec 13 14:45:55 or have just taken notes, etc Dec 13 14:46:21 quantumsummers, a link to the blank form and instructions would be good Dec 13 14:46:33 http://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1023/index.html Dec 13 14:46:40 thanks Dec 13 14:46:55 NeddySeagoon: I wrote some things about it here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~quantumsummers/manifesto_2009.html Dec 13 14:47:00 Goal 1 Dec 13 14:47:41 quantumsummers, thanks - I read it later. I think we may be straying from the agenda Dec 13 14:47:42 ok. so I will move on to CPA if everyone is ready. Dec 13 14:48:32 I have contacted & requested an estimate from the CPA used by the SFLC, whom they recommended. Also I have requested same from the CPA local to me. Dec 13 14:49:01 sounds good Dec 13 14:49:11 I believe I will see them before the holiday, & present them to you at that time. Dec 13 14:49:35 very well Dec 13 14:49:48 I had them separate the estimate into two sections Dec 13 14:49:54 one for tax preparation Dec 13 14:50:06 and another for book keeping. Dec 13 14:50:29 the book keeping thing will be nice as things grow, but not completely necessary at this time Dec 13 14:50:36 ok Dec 13 14:51:08 any questions on CPA? Dec 13 14:51:16 not from me Dec 13 14:51:24 none here, you have it covered Dec 13 14:51:51 next, KM Dec 13 14:52:06 not a question on CPA, but merely a comment that we not get locked into some software that we can't read the files from Dec 13 14:52:27 robbat2|na: I agree completely. Dec 13 14:54:35 KM - I am beating my head against it at the moment. Dec 13 14:55:30 Membership Applications Status (See 6.) Dec 13 14:55:49 Looks like we will get to that shortly. Dec 13 14:56:25 Donation and Vendor Advertising - robbat2|na Dec 13 14:57:27 quantumsummers, refesh the page http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes09/2009/200912_trustees_agenda.xml Dec 13 14:57:34 morning Dec 13 14:57:42 howdy tsunam Dec 13 14:58:01 apparetly I thought noon...and it started at 11 =/ Dec 13 14:58:07 my appolgies for being late Dec 13 14:58:27 no worries tsunam, glad you arrived :) Dec 13 14:58:35 it started late anyhow ;) Dec 13 14:58:38 would you like to take a moment to read up? Dec 13 14:58:42 tsunam ^ Dec 13 14:59:26 sure Dec 13 14:59:46 Before we move on, I was apparently working off an old version of the agenda Dec 13 15:00:15 about filings for new mexico Dec 13 15:00:23 I only filed the annual required Dec 13 15:00:33 I've not submitted a change form yet Dec 13 15:00:43 which is why there's been no changes Dec 13 15:00:49 the annual is NOT used for changes Dec 13 15:00:55 sorry, was afk with phone call Dec 13 15:01:00 same form..just a different checkbox Dec 13 15:01:00 ringing off the hook today Dec 13 15:01:37 tsunam: noted. when do you anticipate sending the change form? Dec 13 15:02:05 best would probably be after the new year. I need to see if I need to do the fax thing again where I need another officer's signature for the updates Dec 13 15:02:08 its likely Dec 13 15:02:21 ok. please let me know if I can assist Dec 13 15:02:24 k Dec 13 15:02:38 any other things I'm involved in that need to be discussed? Dec 13 15:02:55 tsunam, just a request from antarus for more detail in the expeditures breakdown Dec 13 15:03:22 robbat2|na: so more categories when it comes to the annual reports then? Dec 13 15:03:29 antarus|wtf: ^^^ Dec 13 15:03:45 tsunam: we need an annual budget estimate for our 1023 application Dec 13 15:03:50 k Dec 13 15:03:57 quantumsummers: it can be a rough estimate? Dec 13 15:04:05 tsunam: any reason for the quarter income from the store to be 0? Dec 13 15:04:19 tsunam: ah, I was not necessarily requesting anything Dec 13 15:04:19 jmbsvicetto: I've not worked with christina to have a check sent over Dec 13 15:04:27 in the quarterly, can we just have line items for each of the expenditures? it shouldn't really be more than 5 items each quarter from what i've seen Dec 13 15:04:30 (I know what you spent money on) Dec 13 15:04:50 just that others might wonder Dec 13 15:04:58 tsunam: so the income isn't 0, you're just missing the value? Dec 13 15:04:58 robbat2|na: that would be possible, basically itemize our expenditures Dec 13 15:05:06 jmbsvicetto: income is minimal Dec 13 15:05:28 but yes need to get it sent over Dec 13 15:05:34 I will also be using your quarterly statements on the app. Dec 13 15:05:40 quantumsummers: *nods* Dec 13 15:06:23 I will make a note to itemize 2nd quarter 2010's quarterly report Dec 13 15:06:52 very good Dec 13 15:07:54 hmm, I missed something in KM - Email Record Keeping Dec 13 15:08:01 Like a ticket system, a form to keep track of Trustee emails received and the progress Dec 13 15:08:24 I agree we need something Dec 13 15:08:49 yeah - my filing system is a mess Dec 13 15:09:20 short answer to the 2nd subpoint is not: without extra effort. I think we can do something really simple here Dec 13 15:10:42 quantumsummers, what ever is easiest Dec 13 15:11:23 my problem is I get my email from different locations, the Trustee email is increasing Dec 13 15:11:49 what do you mean by different locations? Dec 13 15:12:12 different computers Dec 13 15:12:38 so i end up forwarding them to home Dec 13 15:12:55 its just confusing for me Dec 13 15:13:18 not very organised :) Dec 13 15:13:30 can you setup your computers to grab it in both places? Dec 13 15:14:23 robbat2|na: can we just put the emails in a separate DB? I was thinking something like couch Dec 13 15:14:30 dabbott: imap is your friend, instead of pop3! Dec 13 15:14:48 if we can easily grab the emails & store them, we can build functionality we need around that Dec 13 15:15:17 archives.g.o ? Dec 13 15:15:32 read-only IMAP account? Dec 13 15:15:48 last one kinda sucks for spam reasons Dec 13 15:16:07 config the client to leave stuff on the server Dec 13 15:16:38 antarus|wtf: this is the alias mail. does that get archived now? Dec 13 15:16:57 yes it does Dec 13 15:17:13 very nice. in what form is it stored? Dec 13 15:17:14 since september 08 Dec 13 15:17:25 ah, I saw that email Dec 13 15:17:53 the recent discussion, that is of this Dec 13 15:19:42 can we move along further in the agenda? next is member applications Dec 13 15:20:05 (i like how council has assigned time limits to their agenda items) Dec 13 15:20:21 'tis nice Dec 13 15:20:35 let get Membership stuff in #6 Dec 13 15:20:42 robbat2|na: Your items please Dec 13 15:20:48 Meeting Minutes Need Updating Dec 13 15:20:51 Rotating Sidebar Progress Dec 13 15:20:57 "# Meeting Minutes Need Updating" Dec 13 15:21:22 they've been kept up to date, but i'm wondering if we should remove the duplicate and confusing /minutes/ /minutes08/ /minutes09/ Dec 13 15:21:28 and compress them all into the new format Dec 13 15:21:39 http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes09/ Dec 13 15:21:40 fine by me Dec 13 15:21:55 make that live at /minutes/ and populate it with all prior meetings Dec 13 15:22:26 I like that idea very much Dec 13 15:22:48 robbat2|na, I can convert http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes08/index.xml Dec 13 15:22:56 tsunam, NeddySeagoon: any comments on that from you? Dec 13 15:23:13 dabbott, i made some small scripts for it, so i'll batch-do it Dec 13 15:23:14 thats fine Dec 13 15:23:19 might be nice to reverse the date index, as in "newest first" Dec 13 15:23:26 ok, i'll reverse it too Dec 13 15:23:36 :) Dec 13 15:23:41 :) Dec 13 15:23:50 robbat2|na, as long as its east to extend and maintain, without downloading years worth of stuff I'm happy Dec 13 15:24:04 easy* Dec 13 15:24:47 that was why I was doing it by calander years Dec 13 15:24:48 NeddySeagoon, it's sub 2MB, so not really an issue, but i'll have directories anyway Dec 13 15:24:56 underneath /minutes/ Dec 13 15:25:11 NeddySeagoon, it is easy to keep updated http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes09/?passthru=1 Dec 13 15:25:12 robbat2|na, think abouot in 10 or 20 years time Dec 13 15:25:42 that will just be a really long page :D Dec 13 15:26:04 i think neddy is more concerned with the actual size of the /minutes/ directoriy Dec 13 15:26:21 quantumsummers, thats why I was splitting things by tears Dec 13 15:26:25 years* Dec 13 15:27:00 i think by then our bandwidth will be fine. the council logs have been going for longer than ours and they don't have any problems with it Dec 13 15:27:12 robbat2|na, yeah - I like to keep pages small enough to fit on the screen without scrolling Dec 13 15:27:38 seems that it is unlikely to grow too fast Dec 13 15:27:41 ok, if you've got no objections to having all the stuff in one directory (I estimate 500kb logs/year) Dec 13 15:27:58 robbat2|na, I'm fine with it Dec 13 15:28:00 and in the newer format for the index page, the current stuff will always be near the top anyway Dec 13 15:28:11 robbat2|na, true Dec 13 15:28:12 perfect Dec 13 15:28:20 ok, so moving on Dec 13 15:28:22 sidebar Dec 13 15:29:01 i've mucked a bit with quantumsummers's code, i need to modify it a bit more and talk to neysx about better integration, but it should work out fine once I solve why gorg keeps locking up some webnodes Dec 13 15:29:29 however I would like us to come up with a consistent policy/requirements for the sponsors.xml and sidebar items Dec 13 15:29:36 robbat2|na, do you have a date ? Dec 13 15:29:43 robbat2|na: I would agree Dec 13 15:29:52 launch over christmas Dec 13 15:30:05 policy in regards to style and dimensions Dec 13 15:30:26 Sounds good - thats if our members endorse the break with tradition Dec 13 15:30:29 robbat2|na: if you need any assist with the code, lemme know Dec 13 15:31:09 sidebar: max width 125px, max height 125px, one link and not more than 50 characters of mouseover text Dec 13 15:31:24 and no moving images Dec 13 15:31:49 sponsors.xml: (no well defined image sizes yet), 60-100 words of text, split between the company and what they are offering gentoo Dec 13 15:31:50 robbat2|na: noted Dec 13 15:32:34 that's all from me Dec 13 15:32:47 any questions for Robin? Dec 13 15:32:58 none from me Dec 13 15:33:19 none here Dec 13 15:33:42 alright, moving to David Dec 13 15:33:43 dabbott Get Gentoo | Gentoo Stores Dec 13 15:34:05 Thats done http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml Dec 13 15:34:19 http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/stores.xml Dec 13 15:34:46 ah, you took out the image for g10 Dec 13 15:34:54 can we just take down the 2008.0 release - its almost impossible to update now Dec 13 15:35:28 NeddySeagoon, read carefully, we only list it for architectures that don't have any other release Dec 13 15:35:54 if hppa/ppc/sparc want to start making weekly media Dec 13 15:35:57 we can take it down Dec 13 15:36:32 robbat2|na, hmm - how do those arches update portage and python ? Dec 13 15:37:08 NeddySeagoon, that's not needed Dec 13 15:37:15 they boot using the media listed, and use a current stage Dec 13 15:37:24 robbat2|na, Ah, ok Dec 13 15:37:33 ok, looks fine to me, though I did like that graphic... Dec 13 15:37:45 Next - Links Need Updating - dabbott Dec 13 15:37:46 NeddySeagoon, i can update the warning to state that if you'd like? Dec 13 15:38:04 quantumsummers, thats done Dec 13 15:38:14 ok great Dec 13 15:39:04 Emails Received and Status - dabbott Dec 13 15:39:08 robbat2|na, we still get posters on the forums saying they have installed 2008.0 and can't update ... so it would be a good idea to state its only useful as a liveDVD Dec 13 15:39:20 +1 Dec 13 15:40:49 Unfortunately, vendors are still selling it Dec 13 15:42:10 Emails Received and Status, I will start keeping a record and status Dec 13 15:42:40 NeddySeagoon: can you take over the meeting for a few mins, I have to attend to something. Dec 13 15:42:42 NeddySeagoon, where.xml updated now Dec 13 15:42:52 quantumsummers, ok Dec 13 15:43:15 it's time for neddy's items anyway Dec 13 15:44:10 As I cannot scan to PDF any more ... I thought I delegated the certificate at the last meeting ? Dec 13 15:44:45 NeddySeagoon I can print and scan ... but not to PDF format. quantumsummers what about you as secy ? Dec 13 15:44:45 quantumsummers I can do it Dec 13 15:44:45 quantumsummers not a problem Dec 13 15:44:56 from the last meeting ^^^ Dec 13 15:46:00 hes dun a runner ... lets move on **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 13 15:46:13 2009 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 13 15:46:13 2009 Dec 13 15:46:13 4. Open Bugs Dec 13 15:46:13 I can print+scan, but i've also got my graphics tablet, so I could just scan directly and avoid the paper Dec 13 15:46:45 284224 Summer of Code changes in reimbursement Dec 13 15:47:05 robbat2|na, lets wait to see if quantumsummers has already done it Dec 13 15:47:25 ^^^ donnie got back to me/us Dec 13 15:47:44 should be taken care of by the end of the month Dec 13 15:47:49 tsunam, did antarus|wtf 'phone you? he was trying to fill in a form Dec 13 15:48:01 and the money should be deposited directly to our bank account Dec 13 15:48:03 no he didn't call me Dec 13 15:48:05 tsunam, it has to be or we lose the money Dec 13 15:48:30 NeddySeagoon: understood but I'm not dealing with google directly so I'm relying on others for that Dec 13 15:49:01 tsunam: thats good news Dec 13 15:49:12 tsunam: I still rather curious where this odd address is Dec 13 15:49:12 tsunam, ok. antarus|wtf was trying to fix our name and address - hence his reason to call you Dec 13 15:49:31 Grants ? Dec 13 15:49:34 and if we were doing it via check that would be needed Dec 13 15:49:47 antarus|wtf: can confirm with donnie if you'd like Dec 13 15:50:00 well I mostly wanted to make sure no one else was screwing with our reimbursement ;) Dec 13 15:50:16 but yes donnie needs to have a PO # from Google by Dec 31st, afaik Dec 13 15:50:16 antarus|wtf, so you have the info you need now ? Dec 13 15:50:43 NeddySeagoon: it sounds like antarus|wtf and donnie need to speak together and figure out who should move foward etc Dec 13 15:50:45 well if Donnie is on top of it I'm not going to make a mess of things Dec 13 15:51:05 * antarus|wtf nods Dec 13 15:51:09 antarus|wtf, agreed. Do you know that he is ? Dec 13 15:51:19 antarus|wtf: take your action item ;) Dec 13 15:51:23 NeddySeagoon: nope, tsunam when did you hear from him last? Dec 13 15:51:32 a few days go Dec 13 15:51:33 sec Dec 13 15:51:53 incoming paste Dec 13 15:51:54 Joshua, Dec 13 15:51:54 A bit more info: I have registered to enroll the foundation as a Dec 13 15:51:54 Google supplier, which makes it qualified to sell stuff to Google. I Dec 13 15:51:54 have also requested a PO # from Google. I am waiting on the PO # to Dec 13 15:51:57 show up and cannot invoice them for payment until it does. As soon as Dec 13 15:51:59 I get the PO, I will send out the invoice. Once invoiced, it will take Dec 13 15:52:02 no longer than 30 days to receive payment via electronic funds Dec 13 15:52:04 transfer. Dec 13 15:52:07 Thanks, Dec 13 15:52:09 Donnie Dec 13 15:52:10 ok that is sufficient for me Dec 13 15:52:12 that was thusday Dec 13 15:52:12 thanks Dec 13 15:52:20 * quantumsummers returns ... sorry Dec 13 15:52:48 what shall we sell to google? Dec 13 15:52:52 ;) Dec 13 15:53:11 looks ok to me Dec 13 15:53:25 NeddySeagoon: I forgot about the cert for rbu. its on my calendar now Dec 13 15:53:40 288626 [Gentoo 10 Live DVD] Vendor List Dec 13 15:53:41 tsunam: +1 Dec 13 15:53:45 quantumsummers, np Dec 13 15:54:07 Waiting for a new Gentoo 10 Live DVD iso to be released, less bugs, more support etc Dec 13 15:54:41 err, did we miss the "Trustee Mail" block on the agenda? w/ items "Donation and Vendor Advertising", "Selling CD's and DVD's" Dec 13 15:55:06 yes Dec 13 15:55:09 dabbott ok. Did we get a response from the DVD vendor who was wanting a listing - we asked about a rate for 'bulk' for give aways Dec 13 15:56:12 yes that was Jason, he will work with us, I think he said 15% over cost Dec 13 15:56:23 I'm using the agenda linked from /topic is that out of date ? Dec 13 15:56:32 my unofficial count for the referendum is 44 yes : 6 no. Dec 13 15:56:37 NeddySeagoon, refresh it maybe Dec 13 15:56:58 robbat2|na, that fixed it Dec 13 15:57:15 robbat2|na: w0w, that is a mandate Dec 13 15:58:12 Its still unoffcial as its not ratified by elections. Its about a 25% and its a very positive response Dec 13 15:58:21 mandate is a strong word... ;) Dec 13 15:58:52 :D Dec 13 15:58:59 anyway I will flee now since the SOC stuff seems to be covered Dec 13 15:59:07 antarus|wtf, thanks Dec 13 15:59:18 antarus|wtf: thanks for assisting Dec 13 16:00:00 Donation and Vendor Advertising - needs the offcial result and some policy decisions on rates Dec 13 16:00:08 I think the members trust the current Trustees to not do anything dumb but as robbat2|na pointed out some quidelines need to be in place for the future Dec 13 16:00:20 AYE Dec 13 16:00:24 dabbott, agreed Dec 13 16:00:25 whoops caps Dec 13 16:01:06 that can be a discussion we have outside of a meeting though Dec 13 16:01:12 lets discuss guidelines on the alias. We can reach a decision there too Dec 13 16:01:12 and just announce what the requirements are Dec 13 16:01:13 Motion: I propose we work on this policy via email to be released on 01 Jan Dec 13 16:01:22 aye Dec 13 16:01:33 yes Dec 13 16:01:34 aye Dec 13 16:01:40 I can provide some examples. Dec 13 16:02:08 robbat2|na: can we arrive at some price point equivalent to bogomips, any ideas? Dec 13 16:02:24 quantumsummers, OK. Dec 13 16:02:34 as that is what the code assumes .. well some normalized rating Dec 13 16:02:39 quantumsummers, to the list please Dec 13 16:02:50 :) -nfp? Dec 13 16:02:53 take it to email, because there is a wide disparity. i'll try to work out out what the existing people are doing in terms of both hardware and $ cost Dec 13 16:03:21 robbat2|na: ok. I can add some thoughts if you desire Dec 13 16:03:28 quantumsummers, to the alias first - then nfp once we are pretty much agreed Dec 13 16:03:37 ok. good Dec 13 16:03:37 Selling CD's and DVD's Dec 13 16:03:42 robbat2|na: you're missing 2 votes in dev (may be invalid votes) and 3 votes by mail Dec 13 16:04:06 what shall we tell the current people waiting for an answer? Dec 13 16:04:45 i think even with 5 other votes, it still passes, so we can tell them it's tentatively accepted, and we'd like to see their initial submissions while we construct the requirements for sidebar Dec 13 16:04:48 I think we need a policy on this. Like anyone doing this to make money needs our say so, anyone just covering costs need only acknowledge us Dec 13 16:05:33 robbat2|na, I agree that we have suffcient confidence to progress the matter Dec 13 16:05:50 Yes, we should work on converting the existing sponsors while we construct the policy, then once the items are in place we can approach the potential donors Dec 13 16:05:54 NeddySeagoon, I agree and have a page we can point them to explaining it like http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/name-logo.xml Dec 13 16:05:57 NeddySeagoon, for CD/DVD, i'm in favour of that policy for CDs/DVDs Dec 13 16:06:05 and be stricter on other merchandise Dec 13 16:06:16 robbat2|na yep Dec 13 16:06:24 robbat2|na, yes Dec 13 16:06:33 Do we need a vote on the CD/DVD policy ? Dec 13 16:06:52 sure Dec 13 16:07:09 I misread, please disregard my previous statement Dec 13 16:07:45 I like the policy NeddySeagoon proposes. Split on expectation of profits Dec 13 16:08:15 Motion - vendors selling media at or close to costs need only acknowledge the Gentoo Foundation. Vendors selling media at a profit need our permission Dec 13 16:08:28 seconded Dec 13 16:08:32 Vote Dec 13 16:08:34 yes Dec 13 16:08:34 aye Dec 13 16:08:38 yes Dec 13 16:08:40 aye Dec 13 16:08:41 aye Dec 13 16:08:58 please define the acceptable margin Dec 13 16:09:00 Carried - It needs to get on the websire Dec 13 16:09:13 <2%? Dec 13 16:09:22 <5%? Dec 13 16:09:31 just to make sure they don't trade at a loss Dec 13 16:10:00 some vendors put their profit into shipping costs Dec 13 16:10:00 Like the GPL-2 statement on source code Dec 13 16:10:30 Vendors are permitted to change for shipping Dec 13 16:11:40 Like the GPL-2 statement on source code .... comments Dec 13 16:11:42 ? Dec 13 16:12:12 I am ok with that. Dec 13 16:12:32 ok Dec 13 16:12:55 Special Member Voting ... have we done that one ? Dec 13 16:12:55 we can always refine that with the legal counsel Dec 13 16:13:19 Hmm the GPL-2 has stood the test of time Dec 13 16:13:28 but yes, we can Dec 13 16:13:29 We have a tentative return in favor of the action Dec 13 16:13:52 it's only been tested in some jurisdictions, it's mostly been settled out of court Dec 13 16:14:06 Sorry - I went backwards - we are on bugs Dec 13 16:14:16 296492 "Agenda" links are wrong Dec 13 16:14:43 thats done, plus discussed before Dec 13 16:14:50 i discussed that w/ the minutes stuff above Dec 13 16:14:51 ok Dec 13 16:14:54 close the bug please Dec 13 16:15:07 when i've made the changes Dec 13 16:15:09 i will Dec 13 16:15:16 thanks Dec 13 16:15:26 296766 Corrections to corporation filing needed as of 2009/12/13 we discussed this with tsunam before Dec 13 16:15:35 yup, i just made that bug per the meeting Dec 13 16:15:37 yes Dec 13 16:16:13 5. New Business Dec 13 16:16:28 OSUOSL Donation Dec 13 16:17:01 I am for a donation Dec 13 16:17:15 me also Dec 13 16:17:21 I can go with Solars 6* number of devs Dec 13 16:17:26 ditto, but a smaller amount Dec 13 16:17:36 as some devs are donating on their own Dec 13 16:17:47 robbat2|na, what did you have in mind ? Dec 13 16:17:51 I would support a $1000 donation Dec 13 16:17:56 that should not be a consideration robbat2|na Dec 13 16:17:58 at the Patron level Dec 13 16:18:25 i'd be happy with an even $1k Dec 13 16:18:41 http://osuosl.org/friends/members Dec 13 16:18:46 we get a nice link ^^ Dec 13 16:19:01 which is a side benefit Dec 13 16:19:06 who gets the beer mugs? Dec 13 16:19:10 :P Dec 13 16:19:11 not areason for donating Dec 13 16:19:33 we donate becase OSL has been incredible to Gentoo Dec 13 16:20:15 I linked to that mainly so you guys see how they are doing things. Its a nice campaign they put together Dec 13 16:20:19 I was thinging of more than $1000 but I can go with that Dec 13 16:20:46