Gentoo Council 2010/08/09 meeting agenda / summary: 1) allow all members to show up (5 min) Petteri (Betelgeuse) 12 min late Mark (Halcy0n) 15 min late 2) voting 2a) we have nothing to vote this time, nobody wanted anything YAY :) 3) discussion 3a) from last council meeting: the mailing list situation * merge -project and -council mls into one (-project) ** for: scarabeus, betelgeuse, chainsaw, ferringb (as experiment first that could be reverted), halcy0n ** against: jmbsvicetto, wired Fill up bug for infra to do this. (scarabeus will fill the bug) 3b) from last council meeting: eclass API changes * document better what PV means http://bugs.gentoo.org/331921 * make it easier for QA to take action when common sense is *not* used and things are broken * QA team will update its internal policies about the process to request the suspension of commit rights from a developer. The revision might involve an update to GLEP 48. (QA mailinglist) 3Y) additional deviation: fallout and suspension policies (per ferringb request) * learn from the python breakage to promote the importance of current policies and why developers should use them properly * use this as an example of how not do things and how it should be dealt with and start a discussion of how to recover from it and how to ensure we can reach users in such cases * continue discussion on -project ml (per 3a) 3Z) council comment about the Portage breakage fallout * jmbsvicetto argued that Gentoo needs to acknowledge the incident, ensure affected users can find correct documentation on how to fix it and make it clear that the practices that lead to it are neither appropriate nor acceptable 3c) EAPI 4 status (jmbsvicetto nominate this so we actualy do something new) * ferringb will review the status, and try to find some minion to help him 4) Bugs assigned to council@ in bugzilla and their progress http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=assignedto,cc:council@gentoo.org 234706 halcy0n will create new draft proposal soonish 256451 last summary tbd by betelgeuse 256453 wired wrote nice patch and it will be updated according to the comments on -project mailinglist 237381 jmbsvicetto plans to have something to show next mont meeting 5) select the chair for following meeting chair: wired date: 2010-08-23